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	<title>Comments on: Dyson Coin Trap</title>
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	<description>nice of you to drop by.  tea?</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cathrina o sullivan</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-250532</link>
		<dc:creator>cathrina o sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i have a dyson washing machine ,can you buy cointraps seperate as ours is leaking ? if so where can we buy ? if not what can i do ? and is it a standard one or do they vary ? thankyou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i have a dyson washing machine ,can you buy cointraps seperate as ours is leaking ? if so where can we buy ? if not what can i do ? and is it a standard one or do they vary ? thankyou</p>
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		<title>By: teresa</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-181678</link>
		<dc:creator>teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi dany,i read your comment,  very very hard to turn but have done it at last after reading your advice, you have saved me a lot of money, thank you very much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi dany,i read your comment,  very very hard to turn but have done it at last after reading your advice, you have saved me a lot of money, thank you very much</p>
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		<title>By: dany</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-109846</link>
		<dc:creator>dany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi david do you see the red clip at the top of the coin trap pull it up and then turn anti clockwise.
ok hope it helps</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi david do you see the red clip at the top of the coin trap pull it up and then turn anti clockwise.<br />
ok hope it helps</p>
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		<title>By: David Denton</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-93047</link>
		<dc:creator>David Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help!! my daughter has a dyson washer that she has mislaid the instructions for and the display shows the message not emptying check coin trap, how do I get the coin trap out to check it, I assume it's the bit at the lower front left hand side of the machine which despite trying to turn, pull, push and wrench off does not want to budge, so anyone who can give me some instruction would be a very helpful.
thanks, in anticipation David Denton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help!! my daughter has a dyson washer that she has mislaid the instructions for and the display shows the message not emptying check coin trap, how do I get the coin trap out to check it, I assume it&#8217;s the bit at the lower front left hand side of the machine which despite trying to turn, pull, push and wrench off does not want to budge, so anyone who can give me some instruction would be a very helpful.<br />
thanks, in anticipation David Denton.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-33392</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mesh idea would work if there was more space, but the (very large) size of the drum and the existing trap design seem to make it impossible.   Here's what the coin trap looks like internally (note, this machine was disassembled by a qualified Dyson engineer (Steve, in fact - Hi Steve)).

&lt;a href="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/trap_and_pump" rel="lightbox" title="The coin trap and pump on a disassembled Dyson CR01." rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img src="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/trap_and_pump_t" width="100" height="69" alt="The gunk filter from a Dyson CR01 coin trap" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

The drum normally sits above the trap and there's a small corrugated pipe that connects the two.  The photos show no apparent valve anywhere prior to the trap/pump, so just adding a mesh to the trap itself wouldn't work, because whilst there's water in the drum the trap remains full.

&lt;a href="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/drum" rel="lightbox" title="A Dyson CR01 Drum - the space adjacent to the drum houses the heating element; the corrugated pipe that connects to the trap can be seen draining from it's left." rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img src="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/drum_t" width="100" height="95" alt="A Dyson CR01 Drum" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

If the connecting corrugated pipe could be improved and have a valve added to it, then the coin trap could be flushed with the loss of less than 500ml of water, whilst the machine was still full (i.e. mid-way through a particularly grubby woolen wash when the first rinse clogs up the filter).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mesh idea would work if there was more space, but the (very large) size of the drum and the existing trap design seem to make it impossible.   Here&#8217;s what the coin trap looks like internally (note, this machine was disassembled by a qualified Dyson engineer (Steve, in fact - Hi Steve)).</p>
<p><a href="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/trap_and_pump" rel="lightbox" title="The coin trap and pump on a disassembled Dyson CR01." rel="nofollow"><img src="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/trap_and_pump_t" width="100" height="69" alt="The gunk filter from a Dyson CR01 coin trap" /></a></p>
<p>The drum normally sits above the trap and there&#8217;s a small corrugated pipe that connects the two.  The photos show no apparent valve anywhere prior to the trap/pump, so just adding a mesh to the trap itself wouldn&#8217;t work, because whilst there&#8217;s water in the drum the trap remains full.</p>
<p><a href="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/drum" rel="lightbox" title="A Dyson CR01 Drum - the space adjacent to the drum houses the heating element; the corrugated pipe that connects to the trap can be seen draining from it's left." rel="nofollow"><img src="/pics/2007/dyson-coin-trap/drum_t" width="100" height="95" alt="A Dyson CR01 Drum" /></a></p>
<p>If the connecting corrugated pipe could be improved and have a valve added to it, then the coin trap could be flushed with the loss of less than 500ml of water, whilst the machine was still full (i.e. mid-way through a particularly grubby woolen wash when the first rinse clogs up the filter).</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-33078</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it's pumped, then a higher-level mesh at the top of the trap would catch all the coins and gunk and then the water could be pumped out at the end of the wash cycle along with the rest of the water. If there's water left because it hasn't been pumped out, then the mesh will be sat above it and can be removed without the water leaking out. That also has the advantage that it has fewer pivot points than a tilting mechanism.

The downside is that you will get less exercise in your utility room.

PS: I only just noticed the police box. Nice touch! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s pumped, then a higher-level mesh at the top of the trap would catch all the coins and gunk and then the water could be pumped out at the end of the wash cycle along with the rest of the water. If there&#8217;s water left because it hasn&#8217;t been pumped out, then the mesh will be sat above it and can be removed without the water leaking out. That also has the advantage that it has fewer pivot points than a tilting mechanism.</p>
<p>The downside is that you will get less exercise in your utility room.</p>
<p>PS: I only just noticed the police box. Nice touch! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-33052</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great idea, and I think this counts as prior art to stop any counter patent, but it's probably not workable because of the internal component arrangement.

The path &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt; coin trap is gravity fed; the water pump is joined onto the back of the trap (so the path &lt;em&gt;from&lt;/em&gt; it is pump driven) - consequently a movable or tilting trap would probably require (a) a movable pump or a hose-link so the trap could be detached and (b) the ability to raise the coin trap above the level of the water within the drum so as to avoid the gravity feed, which is what is achieved by tilting the whole machine.

Another fairly simple solution might be a valve above the trap which engages whilst the machine is paused; perhaps fitted to the corrugated rubber hose that connects the drum and trap.  This would allow the coin trap to be emptied with minimal water outflow and avoid any tipping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great idea, and I think this counts as prior art to stop any counter patent, but it&#8217;s probably not workable because of the internal component arrangement.</p>
<p>The path <em>to</em> coin trap is gravity fed; the water pump is joined onto the back of the trap (so the path <em>from</em> it is pump driven) - consequently a movable or tilting trap would probably require (a) a movable pump or a hose-link so the trap could be detached and (b) the ability to raise the coin trap above the level of the water within the drum so as to avoid the gravity feed, which is what is achieved by tilting the whole machine.</p>
<p>Another fairly simple solution might be a valve above the trap which engages whilst the machine is paused; perhaps fitted to the corrugated rubber hose that connects the drum and trap.  This would allow the coin trap to be emptied with minimal water outflow and avoid any tipping.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A</title>
		<link>http://boakes.org/dyson-coin-trap/#comment-33051</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not suggest the internally-tiltable trap to Dyson? Could be patentable. That way, you could tilt the trap, the water would pour away leaving the coins etc. to lift out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not suggest the internally-tiltable trap to Dyson? Could be patentable. That way, you could tilt the trap, the water would pour away leaving the coins etc. to lift out.</p>
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