Tags: Scams
Florida Travel Vouchers - How they appear to work
August 1st, 2005, by Rich.
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All over he world tourist venues are rarely at 100% occupancy, there is usually one high season per year, and the rest of the time there are empty rooms in hotels, empty seats at shows, empty spaces on ski lifts, spare snorkels, etc. From Florida to Felixtowe, there are vacancies.
What often happens is that the surplus from hotels, cruises, theme-parks (etc.) can be bought in bulk by tour operators: this guarantees the hotels trade through these quieter periods. It’s the job of the tour operator to package the vacation pieces together into something the public will buy.
The last word in the previous paragraph is critical: “buy“. I’ll return to it later, but before we go on, also make a note of the last word in the popular phrase “Tourist Industry“. This is business, so caveat emptor.
Vouchers
In Florida, there is a travel voucher scheme, that enables tour operators to sell “the entitlement to a holiday” rather than selling an actual holiday. The vouchers are valid for a pre-determined period of time, which gives the tour operator the opportunity to negotiate the purchase of hotel space after they’ve already got bookings confirmed.
So, with this amazing buying power they should be able to offer some really good deals, yes? Well, not quite as good as they’d like you to believe.
The very best venues, the really, honestly, mind-alteringly fabulous “dream vacation” venues, cost so much that either being “partially full” is part of their operating norm or their waiting list is so long they can charge whatever they want. They’re priced in such a way that they only have to accept people who will pay handsomely for the exclusivity. That’s why you don’t often bump into A-list celebrities by the swimming pool when you’re on holiday; and importantly, it’s why the package these tour operators can offer is not “the vacation of your dreams”.
So what’s left? Normal hotels.
Normal hotels can offer the tour operator favourable bulk rates, but the really shrewd tour operator wants to maximise their profit, so they’ll look for a better deal; and what better angle could there be than hooking up with companies that sell time-share properties; i.e. companies that are willing to subsidise the holidays (on the condition that the holidaymaker swings by their luxury development for a look around) providing a better profit margin for the tour operator.
The tour operator thus provides the time-share sales teams with people who agree to sit through a 90 minute presentation as part of their holiday. This is a dream come true for the time-share sales guys, I’ll explain why by going though a typical scenario:
The Sales Call
- The victim is somehow contacted, by internet popup advert, or by cold-calling their phone number.
- The victim is told that they have won a holiday, the holiday of their dreams, to Florida, Orlando, Cancun, the Bahamas, Mexico, etc…
- …and if the victim confirms today, they’ll even get a cruise too!
- The caller checks that the victim has a credit card (because they’ll need one when holidaying in the USA).
- The caller gets some ID and starts to tell them all about what a wonderful break they have won, going through each venue in turn using lots of encouraging superlatives and adverbs
- Once there is real buy-in and excitement from the victim, and once the full value and spectacle of what they have “won” has been explained, they are, told that they have to pay a small amount, to get the holiday.
- The size of this amount varies, but £598 is common at the moment.
- When the victim recoils, the caller points out that they’ve “won” a holiday for four people, so the cost, when divided by four, is really not that much.
- At this point the caller avoids (or belittles when mentioned) the additional cost of flights, airport taxes, seaport taxes, hotel taxes, cost of travel between venues on multi-site holidays, and of course, spending money.
- As the victim begins to acquiesce, the caller hands them over to a “finisher”, sometimes called a “closer”, this part of the call is recorded so that if necessary, it can be proved that the victim agreed to the sale; the preceding badgering is not, of course, on the recording.
- At this point, either
- The victim, for some reason, provides credit card details, often with a lot of reassurance that the amount will not be taken until x happens in the future. The money is immediately “reserved” with the credit card company, and often taken within minutes of the call
- The finisher realises they’re not going to make a sale and tries to make the caller feel stupid for not accepting this “gift”. If they can’t close the deal, they’ll usually hang up.
The Contract
The tour operator is now in a strong situation, they have the victim’s money, and a recording of the victim authorising the transaction.
After coming off the phone the victim begins to realise the full cost of what they’ve agreed to, and decides that they should cancel. Of course, not being from Florida, the victim’s knowledge of their legal protection and cancellation rights is limited or non-existent.
Often they try calling the sales number again, only to be lost in the system. “Thunderstorms” are often cited as a reason for transatlantic calls being “unfortunately” dropped.
Financial Incentive
So after a little futile scrambling, the victim is resigned to the loss, and rather than canceling the holiday, which is their legal right, they do nothing. In which case, because the victim does not use their voucher, the wily Tour Operator pockets the full £598 - it’s pure profit.
If the victim takes the holiday, then the time-share sales guys think all their birthdays have come at once, because they have a captive audience of people who they know have already fallen for a high-pressure sales technique to get them there in the first place.
Florida Regulation
Tourism in Florida is regulated by the Florida State Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DOACS) who are currently taking legal action against Discount Holidays LLC for deceptive sales techniques such as those described here. Legal proceedings are, sadly, only a reactive way to combat the problem; the pro-active way is to educate the victims before they get hit.
With that in mind, please realise that this doesn’t just happen in Florida, it happens all over the world. The result of the DOACS regulation is that the overwhelming majority of the Florida tourist industry is comprised of businesses that work to make it one of the top vacation venues anywhere in the world.
The bottom line is, don’t fall into the trap of believing that an unsolicited sales call is anything but a sales call. So, here comes that word again, if you want to buy a holiday, make sure you select the tour operator, don’t let them select you.


December 26th, 2005 at 1:57 am
I live in Australia and was scammed into this but I was somehow lucky enough to get my money back after cancelling my card and calling the company up for a refund. This was over a month ago. Now, the company won’t stop calling me to see if I have any questions about the holiday I supposedly have bought. I have not recieved a holiday package which they still think I have purchased. It’s so annoying! Is there a way to make them stop badgering me?
April 21st, 2006 at 1:57 am
This happened to me too.
July 19th, 2006 at 7:46 pm
I’m from Canada and I received a id-blocked call - saying congraulaions
your phone has been randomly selected for a great vacation. and then transfered me to customer service rep. he explained about the trip.
Ex- 6 days 5 nights - orlando FL @ calypso cay resorts.
- pair of 2 VIP day passes to universal studio or universal island of adventure.
- 3 days 2 nights - Daytona beach @ holiday inn includes - hotal, resorts, two steling casino tickets.
-3 days & 2 night all inclusive cruise -Bhamas cruise
The caller did say they were currently promoting their holidays here. After being told I had won a holiday,I was asked for my age to confirm I was eligible- and he then informed me I sounded younger than 21!, then who I preferred to travel with, and which credit card I used - by which point I was convinced it was a scam. Then I told all about the holiday, and asked to guess the value.
-after i said i dont’ trust and after arguing for 5-10 mins he transferd me to his supervisor - god knows if she really was a supervisor.
~then she offered me 3 days& 2 nights in Miami -
ALL FOR $598 USD!!!! bullshitt***
~after transfering me to a person who took all my credit card info. she confirmed what i’m getting and gave me a confirmation number and a customer service number - 1-800-824-1533. people who called was 3rd party solicter — Their website - http://www.bestvacationsworld.com. on there site its listed for $349 compare to what they ofered me $598.
I was told that i would get my vacation package in 14-21 days ( which i got within 10 days)
I then called the number she gave me, I was on hold over 20 mins and then i hung up.. i called them 2nd day same issue. I also work in a call center. I then called them from my work finally someone answered after 10 mins and i told her that i would like to cancle my package. She ased me the reason, I told her that i’m not comfortable and i belive that its a fraud. she appolized for what i was thinking and she asked i have my package yet? which i didn’t yet. she said that she can transfer me to her supervisor and see what they can do for me. i told her that i just want to cancle this. She asked me to wait until i get my package. i also asked her about the price difference - $349- $598 . she also went to that website and checked the prices.. she said since its a 3rd party who called me she can credit me the difference. i asked for best vacations words’s phone number and she didtn’ know even her supervisor didnt’ know. but she was able to bring up my info by putting in my confirmation number.
I’m still kinda undecided rather its a genuine or its fraud.
please lemme know if anyone have been through similar situation.
Thanks
Kamal
August 7th, 2006 at 1:57 pm
I’m getting a lot of automated calls for this scam (Hi, I’m Lisa, you’ve won a fabulous holiday in Cancoon, blah, blah, blah, just press 9, go on just press 9, just press 9 to claim your fabulous holiday).
I’ve found that by pressing 1 instead the call repeats and you can do this three times. That triples their phone bill!!! Let ‘em ‘ave it.
January 19th, 2007 at 5:32 am
Hi
Kamal,
I had exactly the same situation as yours. But fortunatly, I got all my money back after painful effort. I was fortunate enought to get all of my money refuned, It took me 7 days to get all my money back. Even after I got my money refunded, today I received a package through DHL, which I shall put in my garbage.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:20 am
I just got called tonight.
I told the woman my name was “Jesus” and she had a great chuckle. My name is not Jesus, but I found her chuckling to be inappropriate and unprofessional. I told her that I regularily traveled with my dad, or, Him. She didn’t get the joke. Anyway, she asks which credit card I regularily use and I say that money is the root of all evil. She asks if I am still interested in the “vacation”. I say, “No”. She hangs up and I come over to the computer to make sure this really was a scam. Cheers.
- Matt B, Vancouver, Canada
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:16 pm
Hi Matt, You did a wonderful job. Riz, Vancouver, Canada.
February 9th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
I was contacted by a lady yesterday who claimed she worked for Florida Travel Enterprizes and she said I had won a trip to Florida Disneyworld. She mentioned I would pay 2 for 1 airfare and only hotel room services, gratuities, and transfer costs. I was very skeptical so I asked for her company website and how much this would cost me. After many attempts, I couldn’t log on to floridatravelenterprizes.com. Turned out I had to pay up front $498 on my credit card. Luckily, I never gave her my number. I almost went ahead with it but decided I wanted to consult with my husband. Apparently, they didn’t allow call backs so I had to make up my mind right then and there. After 15 minutes on the phone with her, I declined. Maybe it was out of desperation, but she finally let me call my husband and told me that she’d call me back in half an hour. I’m glad I didn’t get sucked in. After reflecting on the phone call and all the out of pocket costs I had to pay up front, it didn’t sound like a prize anymore, but a complete scam! She did call back and I declined her again. Think about it, if it was a prize, why would I have to pay so much money!